He brings up a good point within the first minute. Women are objects to men and men can basically be nothing but tough. This is not what kids today should be learning in the social system. Everyone is considered equal, so why should men be put down for being a little bit feminine at times, and why should women be men's objects. We are human beings, no objects of any sort.
I do believe that as a male there are certain codes that we follow that I know I know that sometimes even I regret following. But I know how I would be if I were free of this man-box, I would be happy, not afraid to say no to others because they might judge me, and make fun of me because I don't always act tough. One thing that I think that he left out of his speech is how other guys treat each other when one doesn't fit in or doesn't dress in brand name clothes. I feel trapped by this man-box/man law/man card thing that is going on in our society because it limits men in what we can do. Say a man likes to dance, people automatically call him gay, when in fact he has a loving wife and two kids. Men should be allowed to be feminine. Men don't have to be violent, society makes us violent.
I agree with Cameron. Even though I am a girl and there are times I feel its tough being one I believe its even more tough to be a guy. Girls have this unrealistic expectation to live up to but they aren't as severely judged if they don't live up to it like guys are. The whole thing about the man-box is so true. I have guy friends and they told me things they said they would never say to other guys because they didn't want to be treated differently. This should not be the way we raise our children
I think he discusses several good points in this speech, especially his idea of the "man box". I think the media plays a huge role in the stereotypes of tough guys who are forbidden to show emotion. Often, advertisements hint at these male guidelines, especially beer commercials which are intended to be viewed by men. Showing emotions does not automatically make you less masculine. On another note, regarding that picture above, is that serious? If so, encouraging young boys to paint their toenails is absurd. I understand that many people think men should be allowed to be somewhat feminine, but that looks ridiculous. Hopefully that poor child is ready to deal with the schoolyard mockery.
I agree with the TED talk that men view women as objects, and I agree that it is horrible that men think it is ok to degrade woman in that way. But I would also like to pose the question is it because of woman that we feel like we need to follow the rules of the man box? I would like to think that that might be true, as a teenage boy all we think about is woman. It is the perception among men that woman like tough guy and we really shouldn’t open up are feelings to them. Now as I have grown up I can see that that is not the case. But for younger boys they think for girls to like them they need to be what the media calls a man.
I completely agree with the TED speech, men must be portrayed in a certain "masculine" light that limits us to just few violent emotions that we feel are wrong but act on them anyway. Its completely up to you who you are No one wants to be different or "less Manley" but you need to just be you Instead of what this man box is.
I have to agree with and would like to build on what Kristina said. Society today build up gender codes and roles that men and women are taught to follow. Women are supposed to always look perfect like their role models in magazines and movies. And men aren't in much better of a situation, they are taught that they have to be pro athletes like the men on fitness magazines.
A common phrase said is there is no such thing as perfect. The phrase doesn't disable us from trying to find perfection, however. For men, the ideal guy is strong, fearless, athletic, tall, emotionless. I also know what the perfect woman would be, but i'll leave that alone for now. What I am trying to say is everyone builds up their ideal person. If they were given the chance to remake themselves, over 90% of modern America would. That is why gender codes are so locked, because our ideal person stays the same on both sides of the timeline.
I think that these male gender codes are unfair to all guys. Not all guys are the perfect, tough, non-emotional man that men are percieved and supposed to be. I think that it's ok for a man to show some of his feminine side, but i guess men have been percieved as tough since the dawn of time and it might not change because that's the way everyone thinks it should be
I think that gender codes are blown out of porportion. Women can hold hands and not be gay, while it is a man code that if you are straight, you are not holding hands with any guy. I think some men take their ego too far by going out of their way top show a certain toughness.
I think there is absolutley nothing wrong with this ad. Its almost like gay marriage; a huge controversial issue. Men and women are both equal in various ways. They should both be allowed to do whatever they wish. If boys wish to paint their nails rather its bright pink or blue then so be it. Todays society is much to harsh. Everyone is stereotyped to be something their not, as well as very judgemental. So i definitley believe that there is nothing wrong with this ad.
I feel like after listening to the beginning of this video, he made a good point. We, as women, are seen as inferior to me. It is almost like we have learned to conform to this way of living. The story of his son crying really showed us how parents feel like they need to make their sons, men.
He brings up a good point within the first minute. Women are objects to men and men can basically be nothing but tough. This is not what kids today should be learning in the social system. Everyone is considered equal, so why should men be put down for being a little bit feminine at times, and why should women be men's objects. We are human beings, no objects of any sort.
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ReplyDeleteI do believe that as a male there are certain codes that we follow that I know I know that sometimes even I regret following. But I know how I would be if I were free of this man-box, I would be happy, not afraid to say no to others because they might judge me, and make fun of me because I don't always act tough. One thing that I think that he left out of his speech is how other guys treat each other when one doesn't fit in or doesn't dress in brand name clothes. I feel trapped by this man-box/man law/man card thing that is going on in our society because it limits men in what we can do. Say a man likes to dance, people automatically call him gay, when in fact he has a loving wife and two kids. Men should be allowed to be feminine. Men don't have to be violent, society makes us violent.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Cameron. Even though I am a girl and there are times I feel its tough being one I believe its even more tough to be a guy. Girls have this unrealistic expectation to live up to but they aren't as severely judged if they don't live up to it like guys are. The whole thing about the man-box is so true. I have guy friends and they told me things they said they would never say to other guys because they didn't want to be treated differently. This should not be the way we raise our children
ReplyDeleteI think he discusses several good points in this speech, especially his idea of the "man box". I think the media plays a huge role in the stereotypes of tough guys who are forbidden to show emotion. Often, advertisements hint at these male guidelines, especially beer commercials which are intended to be viewed by men. Showing emotions does not automatically make you less masculine.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, regarding that picture above, is that serious? If so, encouraging young boys to paint their toenails is absurd. I understand that many people think men should be allowed to be somewhat feminine, but that looks ridiculous. Hopefully that poor child is ready to deal with the schoolyard mockery.
I agree with the TED talk that men view women as objects, and I agree that it is horrible that men think it is ok to degrade woman in that way. But I would also like to pose the question is it because of woman that we feel like we need to follow the rules of the man box? I would like to think that that might be true, as a teenage boy all we think about is woman. It is the perception among men that woman like tough guy and we really shouldn’t open up are feelings to them. Now as I have grown up I can see that that is not the case. But for younger boys they think for girls to like them they need to be what the media calls a man.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with the TED speech, men must be portrayed in a certain "masculine" light that limits us to just few violent emotions that we feel are wrong but act on them anyway. Its completely up to you who you are No one wants to be different or "less Manley" but you need to just be you Instead of what this man box is.
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with and would like to build on what Kristina said. Society today build up gender codes and roles that men and women are taught to follow. Women are supposed to always look perfect like their role models in magazines and movies. And men aren't in much better of a situation, they are taught that they have to be pro athletes like the men on fitness magazines.
ReplyDeleteA common phrase said is there is no such thing as perfect. The phrase doesn't disable us from trying to find perfection, however. For men, the ideal guy is strong, fearless, athletic, tall, emotionless. I also know what the perfect woman would be, but i'll leave that alone for now. What I am trying to say is everyone builds up their ideal person. If they were given the chance to remake themselves, over 90% of modern America would. That is why gender codes are so locked, because our ideal person stays the same on both sides of the timeline.
ReplyDeleteI think that these male gender codes are unfair to all guys. Not all guys are the perfect, tough, non-emotional man that men are percieved and supposed to be. I think that it's ok for a man to show some of his feminine side, but i guess men have been percieved as tough since the dawn of time and it might not change because that's the way everyone thinks it should be
ReplyDeleteI think that gender codes are blown out of porportion. Women can hold hands and not be gay, while it is a man code that if you are straight, you are not holding hands with any guy. I think some men take their ego too far by going out of their way top show a certain toughness.
ReplyDeleteI think there is absolutley nothing wrong with this ad. Its almost like gay marriage; a huge controversial issue. Men and women are both equal in various ways. They should both be allowed to do whatever they wish. If boys wish to paint their nails rather its bright pink or blue then so be it. Todays society is much to harsh. Everyone is stereotyped to be something their not, as well as very judgemental. So i definitley believe that there is nothing wrong with this ad.
ReplyDeleteI feel like after listening to the beginning of this video, he made a good point. We, as women, are seen as inferior to me. It is almost like we have learned to conform to this way of living. The story of his son crying really showed us how parents feel like they need to make their sons, men.
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